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Episode 47 - Social Justice
The social Justice movement has left its marks in all parts of Western culture, from politics, to education, to the church. But what is the legacy of this movement and has its impact on the church been positive or negative? The Bible has a lot to say about this and you may be surprised at what we discover. Let's discuss social justice and the response that Christians should have to this movement.
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Ep 47 - Social Justice
"Hello, and welcome to
the Teleios Talk podcast,
the show that works to
build spiritual maturity among Christians
so that we would be complete in Christ.
Today, we're talking about social justice."
We often look at Social Justice
as a movement or philosophical thought
akin to Marxism
or tied to the principles of Communism;
but we can find the
concepts of Social Justice
in classical sources
as well as ancient Christian philosophy.
Both Plato and Aristotle
discussed justice as a part of the good life
which involved social hierarchy.
In his book “The City of God”
Augustine addresses the nature of man
and our ethical choices
which stabilize and create the cohesion
that allow social bonds to remain.
Augustine’s philosophy of charity and justice
motivates what we call “social justice” today.
Thomas Aquinas, likewise,
spoke of justice as a
moral equality between persons
where each person is given his due.
But, we must understand that
Justice and Social Justice
are not the same thing.
Historically, justice is,
given certain human ends,
to act rationally.
Whereas, Social justice is
a liberal philosophy of political domination
which values "good" as being
what enables the political machine.
In today's society,
social justice has come to
encompass issues such as
gender inequality,
climate change,
racial equality,
abortion,
gun violence,
etc….
It is the political catch-all
for any political thought which is
believed to oppress any member of society,
whether the assumption is true or not.
But, is social justice more idealisticly
liberal or conservative in its focus;
and, if it is a political stance,
how does it benefit society?
Is social justice a justice
which favors the week or
is it an unbiased justice for all?
Voddie Bauchum,
speaking with Ben Shapiro
on his Sunday Special
“What Does it Mean to Be A Man” said,
"Social justice classically is defined as
the redistribution of wealth,
privileges,
and opportunities.
Social justice is about equity,
not equality,
….it is redistribution
with a view toward achieving equal outcomes
for various, specified groups."
[https://youtu.be/CMiXQ-iODyk?si=q2jT1nRNnEh3b-3W]
This does not sound like
true justice to me at all.
How does the western idea of blind justice
balance against a justice
which plays favorites?
In his keynote address to the
Association of Canadian Financial Officers
on October 27, 2023;
Ian Brodie, professor in the
Department of Political Science
at the University of Calgary
and program director for the
Canadian Global Affairs Institute said,
“The social justice agenda creates
a bad political-economic dynamic.
It makes a political issue out of
the distribution of economic and status goods
between groups in society.
That results in a zero-sum political game
of redistribution that no one wins.
Moreover, once the social justice agenda
gets established,
it never provides satisfaction.
Social justice theorists constantly
find evidence that some group,
subgroup
or sub-subgroup
is losing out compared to someone else.
Demands for more intrusive measures
to correct inequalities never end.
Redistribution begets more redistribution.
The demand for spending
to resolve these inequalities
grows faster than government revenues.”
So, is social justice dead?
Unfortunately, it lingers
like a wound that won't heal,
raising its ugly head
only to inflict injustice
at the whim of the weak.
John Cooper in his book
“Wimpy, Weak, and Woke" writes:
"…Social justice warriors
do not truly believe in the tolerant,
pluralistic society that they preach.
Moreover, their demand for tolerance
also demands that we lie
by pretending to agree with their delusions.
Is it loving to agree with a person
who believes an army of leprechauns
is stalking him
in an attempt to steal his soul?
I'm not suggesting people aren't
free to believe in a leprechaun army,
I'm simply saying
it is not hateful to disbelieve in it.
(Today) we are destroying
publicly held belief systems
and replacing them with
the privately held beliefs
of those seen as victims."
[https://youtu.be/7pmsHV2qA8c?si=FxnHcB0UCXRU1f-F 24 minutes in]
The views of John Cooper
are reflected in the words of
Ronan J. Sharkey,
professor of philosophy at
Institut Catholique de Paris,
in his paper entitled
“justice and social justice”
where he says,
“...your Hasidic,
or Catholic,
or Islamic,
or vegetarian convictions
are yours alone as an individual:
you’re free to pursue them,
indeed to pursue them
with like-minded others,
but not to conceive them integrally
as a political project
(which doesn’t of course mean
you can’t as an individual
take inspiration from your religious faith
in order to advance certain specific freedoms
conceived as political goals).”
Once we have heard what social justice is,
and the warnings of its detractors,
we need to ask,
does Scripture address Social Justice?
Exodus 23:2-3, says,
"You shall not follow the masses in doing evil,
nor shall you testify in a dispute
so as to turn aside after a multitude
in order to pervert justice;
nor shall you be partial to a poor man
in his dispute."
Let me read that again,
“Nor shall you be partial to a poor man”
Do you hear what God is telling
Moses and the Israelites?
If we understand this verse correctly,
then it would appear that
the Bible is against social justice
as it has been defined.
And it isn't just this verse
that speaks to our partiality toward others.
Listen to what James says in James 2:1,
“My brothers, show no partiality
as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Lord of glory.”
And if you are wondering,
James follows this verse by describing
two different men coming to church -
one rich and one poor -
and he describes how the response
of the church towards these two men
is sinful.
He concludes his warning with this
in James 2:4,
“have you not then made distinctions
among yourselves
and become judges
with evil thoughts?”
Dennis Prager, in his comments on
Exodus 23:3,
during Episode 11,
of the Exodus Series
presented by Daily Wire, said,
"social justice favors the weak,
but true justice favors justice for all."
[Daily Wire presents Exodus with Jordan Petersen ep. 11]
Pastor Sam Horn comments on this
when he writes,
“Worldly wealth and status
have no influence
in the kingdom of Christ.
When believers introduce such distinction
in His body,
they radically distort His design
and supremely displease Him.”
[https://seminary.bju.edu/viewpoint/faith-vs-favoritism-how-the-sin-of-partiality-distorts-the-gospel/#:~:text=James'%20word%20for%20%E2%80%9Cpartiality%E2%80%9D,entering%20a%20church%20worship%20service.]
Following his definition of
social justice for Ben Shapiro,
Voddie Bauchum said,
"The clearest conflict is seen …
when Jesus, in one of His parables,
talks about the … talents and you have
the owner who gives …
different talents to different workers … .
He comes back and one of them
has done better with his talents
than the others,
and he doesn't take from
the one who did … well
and give it to the one who did poorly.
He actually takes away from
the one who did poorly
and gives it to the one who does well.
…that parable really flies in the face
of the idea that the Christian attitude
ought to be equal outcomes.
Nothing could be further from the truth."
[https://youtu.be/CMiXQ-iODyk?si=q2jT1nRNnEh3b-3W]
In Galatians 3:28 we read this,
“There is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free,
there is no male and female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
This verse has been twisted
and perverted
by the social justice movement
to support their claims,
but what was Paul actually saying?
Quite simply,
“there are no lesser Christians
in the family of God.
Our earthly identifiers create no
value distinction between us
in our Father's eyes.”
[https://www.bibleref.com/Galatians/3/Galatians-3-28.html]
God's justice is perfect
where social justice is flawed.
But - you might ask-
I thought the Bible supported
the idea of social justice.
Verses like Matthew 3:13-16,
talk about us being salt and light.
Andrew Lawrence certainly
champions this notion when writing for the
Jubilee Center in Cambridge,
He says,
“...the mission of the Church is
to seek the redemption,
renewal
and reconciliation
that Jesus began,
in our relationships with both God
and our neighbor.”
Is he wrong?
There are many verses that do
seem to favor social justice;
Matthew 22:34-40, for example,
where Jesus outlines the
greatest commandment,
and ends by telling His listeners to
“love your neighbor as yourself”.
He seems to suggest that the Law is
designed to protect
and strengthen the relationships
between us and God
as well as our neighbors.
Social justice supporters
would point at this and say,
“see.. the Bible is all for social justice!”
But our definition of love here is wrong.
Jesus uses the word agapaō
to bring attention to our moral expectations.
Quoting Leviticus 19:18,
Matthew Henry reminds us that,
“we must have a due concern
for the welfare of our own souls and bodies.
And we must love our neighbor
as truly and sincerely as we love ourselves;
in many cases we must
deny ourselves
for the good of others.”
So this love is not a love
which puts favor on one part of society
over another.
Just because we have disparity
does not mean we have injustice,
you can observe differences in society,
but you don't have to react to
those differences as injustice.
We need to stop pushing for equality
and start recognizing our uniqueness.
Inequality is not inherently injustice,
inequality can simply be
recognizing the differences in us all.
Don't misunderstand me,
we all deserve an equal portion of justice,
but that's my point;
social justice is not true justice.
Fredrik deBoer,
American writer and socialist Marxist said,
in an interview with Daily Beast,
“Privately, personally, or quietly,
many people identify a lot of the
excesses of the social justice movement
to be counterproductive
and to be unhelpful.”
[https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-2020-social-justice-revolutions-failed]
He goes on to describe how
social justice revolutions have failed
because of their penchant for violence.
Does that sound like something
we can see Scripture being in support of?
So how do we as Christians address
Social Justice and its
infiltration into the church?
Voddie Bauchum followed up
his thoughts on social justice
by telling Ben Shapiro,
"Christians hear things like social justice,
and then racial justice,
…and of course we're for that.
(But) when you have weak
and faulty worldviews
and then seductive language;
and then you have leaders
with unclear voices,
you end up in the mess that we're in.”
https://youtu.be/CMiXQ-iODyk?si=q2jT1nRNnEh3b-3W
And we have an abundance of these confused leaders in our churches.
Calvin P. VanReken,
in discussion with faculty and students of
Calvin Theological Seminary,
on December 10, 1998, said,
“The primary work of the institutional church
is not to promote social justice.
It is to warn people of divine justice.
Its primary business is not to
call society to be more righteous
but to tell persons of the
righteousness of God in Jesus Christ.”
[The Church's Role in Social Justice https://www.calvin.edu/library/database/crcpi/fulltext/ctj/68491.pdf]
Social Justice has become,
in some churches,
the new religion of our age.
In episode 102 of Cooper Stuff,
Phil Visher - creator of VeggieTales -
shows how this new religion
has influenced him when he asks,
"Am I disadvantaging my community
for the advantage of my own family?
And does that put me in
the Biblical definition of righteous or wicked?"
In response, John Cooper says:
"Wanting your (family) to be advantaged
does not mean the automatic
disadvantaging of someone else.
Just because someone has something
doesn't mean they stole it
from someone else.
That is a worldview of power and privilege."
[https://youtu.be/F6YpRP5XCiw?si=4jMJ_wIvgRBy5B5B 70 minutes in]
Unsurprisingly,
the apostate United Church of Canada,
has included social justice
as part of their statement of faith.
But Mennonite Church Canada
follows in this rhetoric as well,
in an attempt to cover up their compromises
when it comes to doctrinal fidelity.
Preaching peace and justice,
these churches ignore Christ's words
when He talks about peace.
Did He promise peace on earth?
No, John 16:33 records Jesus as saying,
“I have said these things to you,
that in Me you may have peace.
In the world you will have tribulation.
But take heart;
I have overcome the world.”
The Anabaptist tradition of
peace and non-violence
does not track with the social justice agenda;
neither does the Biblical view of justice.
In Matthew 10:34–36 Jesus says,
“Do not assume that I have come
to bring peace to the earth;
I have not come to bring peace,
but a sword.
For I have come to turn
‘A man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
A man’s enemies will be
the members of his own household’”.
Our peace is in knowing that
God is in control,
that nothing happens outside of His will,
and we look forward to
the promise of eternity with Him.
When it comes to justice,
God’s justice requires Him to deal with sin.
God could not just ignore sin,
to do so goes against His perfection.
Ultimately, justice requires a penalty,
it requires a payment for the crime.
Proverbs 21:15 says,
“When justice is done,
it is a joy to the righteous
but terror to evildoers”.
Social justice is just posturing,
there is nothing just about it.
Consider Psalms 96:13, which says,
“Let all creation rejoice before the LORD,
for he comes,
he comes to judge the earth.
He will judge the world in righteousness
and the peoples in his faithfulness”.
Or, Jeremiah 32:19 which reads,
“Your eyes are open to
the ways of all mankind;
you reward each person
according to their conduct
and as their deeds deserve”.
True justice is terrifying.
John MacArthur, in his blog, wrote,
“Today,
critical race theory,
feminism,
intersectional theory,
LGBT advocacy,
progressive immigration policies,
animal rights,
and other left-wing political causes
are all actively vying for
evangelical acceptance
under the rubric of “social justice.””
[https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B180907/the-injustice-of-social-justice]
As polarizing as he is,
John MacArthur has a point.
When the church begins chasing fads
and the ideology of the unbelieving world,
we forget about being followers of Christ
and replace our commission
with the desire to be relevant.
The post-modern emerging church nonsense
shoved down our throats
flaunts it's emotional appeal
like a banner of deviant ideology.
Charity and goodwill have nothing to do
with partiality to the poor or disenfranchised
in an effort to even the scales of privilege.
Being a good neighbor is about
equity and righteousness.
The equal treatment of
everyone under God's Law,
and punishment for evildoers
under God's Law.
Loving your neighbor as yourself
is not an act of selfishness,
posturing,
or achieving social constructs;
it is a response to our understanding
of God's Law.
1 Corinthians 13:5 says,
“[Love] keeps no record of wrongs.”
This this is a quality which is
in short supply among those
advocating for social justice;
it should never be said
the church forgot the definition of love
in its pursuit of justice.
It seems that the church
has forgotten about sin.
We suppress it,
we don't preach sermons about it,
we don't discipline those who do it,
we turn a blind eye away from it,
and then we find ourselves championing it.
Social justice is about normalizing sin,
it has no place in the church
or among the body of Christ.
There is a statement on social justice
and the gospel which contain
articles of faith available to read at
https://statementonsocialjustice.com/.
I encourage you to look it up and read it.
Christianity Today decries it as
divisive among believers,
but these are positions presented to
provoke dialogue that can
promote unity in the gospel among believers.